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April 29, 2011 at 8:12 pm #2567
kev16
MemberHi i’ve read various accounts of the potential gains to be had by re mapping the leon cupras 1.8 turbo engine. I understand upto 210 bhp can be had, but i was wondering if anyone had actually had it done and wether there was that much difference driving the car afterwards? Basically was it worth it? And how does the clutch hold up with the extra power on tap? Any views/opinions are welcome.
April 29, 2011 at 9:29 pm #4735c3ptik
ParticipantHi Kev,
A basic remap (otherwise known as a stage 1 map) will be fine for the standard clutch. Granted, any modifications to boost the power output of any engine will, in time, decrease it’s life span but remaps such as stage 1 or even stage 2 won’t make a big difference in it’s life cycle.
The power gains are awesome and really show you what the turbo can do. You feel a harder surge of power through the rev range that’s for sure. Tuners like Ecotech Performance will actually provide you gains of a little more mpg too. 210bhp is quite achievable really without any extra modifications.
As a rule of thumb, stage 1 can be done with mods.
Stage 2 remaps usually require a performance air filter/induction kit, 4bar fpr (fuel pressure regulator), better intercooler and a cat-back or full performance exhaust system.Stage 3, well…we’ll cross that bridge later 😉
Hope this helps a bit
April 30, 2011 at 10:06 am #4740kev16
MemberThanks for the input, the stage 1 map sounds good to me as i’m trying to keep the car as standard as possible, but if theres a bit more power to be had without much outlay and any modification then thats all good for me.
April 30, 2011 at 10:08 am #4741kev16
MemberJust as a matter of interest where does stage 3 take you to?
April 30, 2011 at 11:15 am #4743Seat Adam
MemberBankruptcy. Stage 3 is big turbos, even go as far as new engine internals.
In my opinion, any map would decrease the life of the clutch, depending on how you drive. I would have it changed to an uprated one even for stage 1. The map will give you more torque and then you wont need to use the throttle as hard to maintain the speed, hence saving fuel. My Mrs still won’t buy that excuse. For stage 1 also, I would change the air filter for a panel filter and get a ‘Cat Back’ exhaust.
April 30, 2011 at 1:59 pm #4747Tdimatt
MemberHi mate there are many mappers to choose from but I have used revo on all 3 of my leons in the past and honestly you won’t be disappointed… you will instantly notice a big power gain and it will make you smile every time you squeeze the go pedal!!! The reason I went for revo is because I bought an sps unit ( serial port switch) which is basically a little gadget you plug in to change the map settings or even switch it off back to standard when you take it for services etc…
As for clutch both my petrol leons were fine but my tdi lasted a week. Some people have no problems others do I guess if the previous owner was a clutch rider you could have issues but like I say both my petrols were fine! My tdi now has a sachs clutch kit and is ok!!!
So lots to choose from but which ever you go with it will transform you car 🙂 I think revo is one of the most aggressive whereas others bring the power on smoothly depends what you fancy. If you want to know anymore feel free to drop me a msg!!!
Cheers, Matt
May 1, 2011 at 12:25 pm #4755ToRo
MemberThe difference is very noticable from a standard 1.8 20vt engine to a remapped one. I have a standard one and my friend has a mapped one and his is a lot faster than mine unfortunately 🙁
There are no other modifications to the engines on either car.
Very worth while getting one I must say!
May 3, 2011 at 10:30 pm #4762CupraMan
MemberHi if it’s any help I’ve had a stage 1 and a stage 2 done to my Cupra, and yes the stage 1 deffinately improves the performance no end. The stage 1 done by Custom Code took it from the standard 180BHP to about 210BHP, only engine mod I had at the same time was a forge DV and a green air filter. The stage 2 was done last year by AMD tech (Woking,Surrey), I had a Milltek full system exhaust fitted and they recomended an uprated fuel boost valve (Which was only a few quid). The stage 2 took it to approx 235BHP, they could have tweeked it more but they kept it down a bit to be a little more conservative on the fuel comsumption.
Never had a new clutch, gearbox is sweet as a nut although I did trash the RH drive shaft last year and had to have a new set of them babies fitted, but then my Cupra has just clicked past the 156k point and I do drive it like I stole it, hence the £360 speeding fine I got last year (85 on a 70, tried to contest it that why it was so high, should have paid the fixed £60 will I never learn).
Back to the original question, the re-mapping is best bang for bucks so worth it deffinately on stage 1, not so on stage 2 though I did notice a little difference but nothing to write home about, it was mainly to smooth out the new Miltek and give it better responce due to the Miltek, wasnt cheap if you consider the cost of the Miltek as well but it had to be done.
May 4, 2011 at 9:31 pm #4768kev16
MemberThanks for the replies i’m getting a good insight into what can be done and theres definatly scope to improve the car should i get bored with it. But as a daily drive i’ll probley get the car to stage 1 and see how the old petrol needle reacts. Just one further question, my car is currently on 84000 miles it does have fsh but is it a bit high milage to be playing with the engine?
May 5, 2011 at 9:09 pm #4773Tdimatt
MemberThese engines are strong 84k is nothing really – play away mate! you wont regret it – As I mentioned with the Revo remap a Revo dealer can load a test map for you completely FREE that lasts about 8 hours so you can try before you buy…. and I guarentee once it switches off you will go back and buy it :o)
May 5, 2011 at 11:29 pm #4775CupraMan
Member@kev16 wrote:
Just one further question, my car is currently on 84000 miles it does have fsh but is it a bit high milage to be playing with the engine?
Read my post above mines on 156k and had both stage 1 and 2, and runs fine, like someone else has said these are strong engines they go on forever. Now I’ve said that watch mine go on me next week LOL. :LOL:
May 6, 2011 at 5:50 pm #4784kev16
MemberRead my post above mines on 156k and had both stage 1 and 2, and runs fine, like someone else has said these are strong engines they go on forever. Now I’ve said that watch mine go on me next week LOL. :LOL:
Lets hope not, i don’t want to be responsible for making you tempt fate. Thanks for all the views and opinions your all very helpful cheers.
May 31, 2011 at 2:43 pm #4839Simon Colyer
MemberIts well worth doing.
One of our demonstrator cars is now on 156,000 and still on its original clutch, running 112lbft over standard torque and 217bhp. It flies and fuel consumption (when not hammered) is down by 2/5 MPG.
Keep an eye on our site http://ecotechperformance.co.uk or join our facebook page to stay up to date with our special offers as we often drop in the 1.8t for the offer.May 31, 2011 at 7:47 pm #4841kev16
MemberThanks for the response, where are you based?
May 31, 2011 at 11:53 pm #4843Simon Colyer
MemberChester, but have a mobile service if your not too close.
P.s we are a sponsor of this site I think ive just signed in with facebook instead of my proper user name lol
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