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November 8, 2009 at 2:05 pm #2341
catellkai
MemberHi,
I am after some advice.I have a LCR tdi 150 with a revo remapp, i have clutch slip and am looking in the best clutch for the torque.I have been told that if you remapp the Lcfr tdi there is no clutch as the clutch is able to take the torque.What is the difference between the fr and the cupra r clutches? Will a fr fit my cupra r? Are the gearboxes the same, with a fr one fit my cupra r?
If anyone can help i really appreciate it.
many thanks
catherine.November 8, 2009 at 3:06 pm #3847Seat Adam
MemberI suggest the best people to speak to are VAG specialists, eg AMD, The Phirm or JKM, there are many out there. They will tell you what will be the best option for your car, for example a new Sachs uprated clutch with single or dual mass flywheel. Either way you will probably need an uprated clutch as the torque of the engine will determine the rate of clutch needed.
November 15, 2009 at 1:20 pm #3855Seat Adam
MemberAlso looking that you have a TDI LC with an ARL engine, so do the TDI FR Leons, so there would be no difference in a standard clutch.
November 18, 2009 at 1:14 am #3857AndrewJB
Moderator@Seat Adam wrote:
Also looking that you have a TDI LC with an ARL engine, so do the TDI FR Leons, so there would be no difference in a standard clutch.
Yep as i said on Tdisport , ETKA Shows Both models share the same PD150 Engine ( ARL) and therefore share the Same Box and Clutch
January 4, 2010 at 2:38 pm #4087gac
ParticipantYours isn’t a Cupra R. The Leon Cupra R is a 225bhp petrol model with a few other differences over the standard Cupra.
What you have is a Leon Cupra TDI. This is the same engine (and completely identical clutch, gearbox, etc) as the later Leon FR TDI, there’s only cosmetic differences between the two. The clutch that’s in the Cupra and FR TDI is rated to around 300lb/ft of torque which you’ve obviously exceeded, so you need an uprated aftermarket part such as the Sachs performance clutch (~400lb/ft). It’s not cheap, rough cost:
£660 for clutch friction plate and pressure plate
£250 for replacement standard DMF (if required, depends somewhat on milage and driving style)
£35 for a new release bearing as part of the concentric slave cylinder
£180 for fitting (depending on garage, I think mine was around 6 hours billable labour but I know the guy well so got a fair chunk of discount)I know what I’ve said has been said before, I’m mainly posting to point out that you don’t have a Cupra R as if you’re phoning round for parts then you’ll get a completely wrong response if you tell whoever you’re talking to that you do have a Cupra R 🙂
January 5, 2010 at 10:08 am #4094AndrewJB
Moderator@gac wrote:
Yours isn’t a Cupra R. The Leon Cupra R is a 225bhp petrol model with a few other differences over the standard Cupra.
What you have is a Leon Cupra TDI. This is the same engine (and completely identical clutch, gearbox, etc) as the later Leon FR TDI, there’s only cosmetic differences between the two. The clutch that’s in the Cupra and FR TDI is rated to around 300lb/ft of torque which you’ve obviously exceeded, so you need an uprated aftermarket part such as the Sachs performance clutch (~400lb/ft). It’s not cheap, rough cost:
£660 for clutch friction plate and pressure plate
£250 for replacement standard DMF (if required, depends somewhat on milage and driving style)
£35 for a new release bearing as part of the concentric slave cylinder
£180 for fitting (depending on garage, I think mine was around 6 hours billable labour but I know the guy well so got a fair chunk of discount)I know what I’ve said has been said before, I’m mainly posting to point out that you don’t have a Cupra R as if you’re phoning round for parts then you’ll get a completely wrong response if you tell whoever you’re talking to that you do have a Cupra R 🙂
Yeh exactly what i said on TDIsport , if you tell them its LCR you will end up with a Petrol LCR Clutch
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